Muddy Waters

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  a list of good movies/tv shows to get a JW to think

  by nonjwspouse in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  ones that have themes that come uncomfortabllly close to the cult dynamic.. i already got him to watch the obsolete man on twilight zone.

  he sauggested watching some old tz again tonight so i wioll pick where is everybody, and escape clause.. i have heard oters say the movie truman show was a good movie as is the matrix ( though i detest violence).

  any more suggestions for my personal handy dandy list?.

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  TANGLED. (2010) It's an animated movie, but very apt!
  
  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0398286/?ref_=nv_sr_1
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  a list of good movies/tv shows to get a JW to think

  by nonjwspouse in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  ones that have themes that come uncomfortabllly close to the cult dynamic.. i already got him to watch the obsolete man on twilight zone.

  he sauggested watching some old tz again tonight so i wioll pick where is everybody, and escape clause.. i have heard oters say the movie truman show was a good movie as is the matrix ( though i detest violence).

  any more suggestions for my personal handy dandy list?.

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  OBLIVION (2013) with Tom Cruise.

  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1483013/?ref_=nv_sr_1
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  a list of good movies/tv shows to get a JW to think

  by nonjwspouse in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  ones that have themes that come uncomfortabllly close to the cult dynamic.. i already got him to watch the obsolete man on twilight zone.

  he sauggested watching some old tz again tonight so i wioll pick where is everybody, and escape clause.. i have heard oters say the movie truman show was a good movie as is the matrix ( though i detest violence).

  any more suggestions for my personal handy dandy list?.

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  THE ISLAND (2005) with Scarlett Johansson & Ewan McGregor. (I've been told that this movie depicts life at BETHEL with blazing accuracy!!)

  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0399201/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
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  Did Cedars manipulate Lee into having a thread closed?

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i will happily answer this question if there can be some guarantees this thread won't be deleted..

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  Everybody is their own universe. (Meaning: we all see things from our own perspective. Even when we try to see things from another person's perspective, it doesn't always resonate or make sense. Sometimes it seems to "resonate" or make sense, and we all get along, everybody's happy. Until another moment or something happens where we realize, once again, that everybody is their own universe....)
  
  (This applies to everybody, anywhere, in any sort of relationship: friendship, marriage, message boards, forums, our colleagues at work, our pets... any time there is communication, there can also be communication break-down. Clarity and insight are gifts. When they happen, we appreciate these gifts.)
  
  Peace.
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  Favorite scripture in your present journey

  by Separation of Powers in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, if you haven't become an atheist yet and still hold on to some form of christian based/bible based faith.

  tell us one scripture that defines where you are at right now in your spiritual journey.... .

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  From Psalms 146:3.. "Do not put your trust in nobles, nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs..." (NWT)

  3 "Do not put your trust in princes, nor in a son of man, who cannot bring salvation." (new NWT)
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  To any JWs watching and reading here, please know this...

  by Muddy Waters in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to any jws watching and reading here, please know thiis:.

  .... we know how you must be feeling so bad about being at a website like this, yet inside you are somehow questioning and not wanting to question... relax right now.. your computer won't explode -- reassuring smile -- all you are doing is asking a question or seeking an answer... right?

  isn't that how one gains knowledge, finds truth?.

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  Muddy Waters

  Thanks, Zoos. :)
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  To any JWs watching and reading here, please know this...

  by Muddy Waters in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to any jws watching and reading here, please know thiis:.

  .... we know how you must be feeling so bad about being at a website like this, yet inside you are somehow questioning and not wanting to question... relax right now.. your computer won't explode -- reassuring smile -- all you are doing is asking a question or seeking an answer... right?

  isn't that how one gains knowledge, finds truth?.

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  To any JWs watching and reading here, please know thiis:

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  We know how you must be feeling so bad about being at a website like this, yet inside you are somehow questioning and not wanting to question... Relax right now.

  Your computer won't explode -- reassuring smile -- all you are doing is asking a question or seeking an answer... right? Isn't that how one gains knowledge, finds truth?

  No, I'm not Satan whispering from a tree. I am a sister, a sister who had questions too, when some things just didn't seem to add up or make sense. So I questioned. Very reluctantly and with huge amounts of guilt and fear... Aways remembering "where else could I go?? This is the truth." .... Isn't it? And so you feel frightened. Maybe you will run away right now because you recognize these feelings and thoughts and fear that Satan is getting to you.

  If so, that is fine... no worries. Keep seeking Jehovah's glory, his strength, his will, all the very good and wonderful things which do come out of "this organization".... And there are many good things. If you wish, drop by again to visit when you feel more comfortable or when another burning question or doubt comes up into your heart, because really, as a thinking person, you do require answers. Or explanations. Or just to reassure yourself and confirm your faith.

  But if you think there just might, might be something strange about the Org lately or the GB are sure elevating themselves above everybody else lately... then maybe you need to hear more ...

  You may be wondering if this is really the type of truth which Jesus taught, and is this really how people should live and believe and behave if they are true Christians...? What does the Bible say? Yes, it should all go back to the Bible, shouldn't it? The real question is... Does it?

  Much love,

  Muddy

  (Muddy Waters, actually... Chose that name when I first start questioning things, when the clear, clean, sparkling waters of "truth" began to feel so confused, so non-sensical, so ever-changing... so... muddy. It was a totally confusing time, but did, and does, get better!!)
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  FOLLOW THE MONEY to the Revised NWT

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  lawsuits with big $$$ awards attached lead to schemes for raising instant revenue to offset losses.. what is the best bet?.

  read the nytimes and make a guess.. .

  http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html....

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  Muddy Waters

  You know what... This is excellent Wake-Up Information!! Let's keep this thread alive and at the top!

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  To any JWs watching and reading here, please know this:

  We know how you must be feeling so bad about being at a website like this, yet inside you are somehow questioning and not wanting to question... Relax right now.

  (Your computer won't explode, -- reassuring smile) -- all you are doing is asking a question. Right? Isn't that how one gains knowledge, finds truth?

  No, I'm not Satan whispering from a tree. I am a sister, a sister who had questions too, when some things just didn't seem to add up or make sense. So I questioned. Very reluctantly and with huge amounts of guilt and fear... Aways remembering "where else could I go?? This is the truth." .... Isn't it? And so you feel frightened. Maybe you will run away right now because you recognize these feelings and thoughts and fear that satan is getting to you.

  If so, that is fine... no worries. Keep seeking Jehovahs glory, his strength, his will, all the very good and wonderful things which do come out of "this organization".... And there are many good things. If you wish, drop by again to visit when you feel more comfortable or when another burning question or doubt comes up into your heart, because really, as a thinking person, you do require answers. Or explanations. Or just to reassure yourself and confirm your faith.

  But if you think there just might, might be something strange about the Org lately or the GB are sure elevating themselves above everybody else lately... then maybe you need to hear more ...

  You may be wondering if this is really the type of truth which Jesus taught, and is this really how people should live and believe and behave if they are true Christians...? What does the bible say? Yes, it should all go back to the Bible, shouldn't it? The real question is... Does it?

  much love,

  Muddy

  (Muddy Waters, actually... Chose that name when I first start questioning things, when the clear, clean, sparkling waters of "truth" began to feel so confused, so non-sensical, so ever-changing. It was a totally confusing time, but did, and does, get better!!)

  (sorry, just edited this to make more sense, my iPad takes great liberty with the words I'm trying to type, lol!)
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  FOLLOW THE MONEY to the Revised NWT

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  lawsuits with big $$$ awards attached lead to schemes for raising instant revenue to offset losses.. what is the best bet?.

  read the nytimes and make a guess.. .

  http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html....

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  Muddy Waters

  Wow, wow, awesome information. Thank you. Book marking.
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  Come... take the free gift of the water of life!

  by tec in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  peace to you all!.

  for some time now, i have been arguing and debating and discussing matters of god and the spirit (who is christ).

  i have tried to share as he has given me to share whenever he gives me something to share.

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  Muddy Waters

  Village girl, just have to say that I loved your post. :)